The Top 5 Things You Need To Know About Widow Survivor Benefits
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Short and Sweet Summary: Widow survivor benefits are complicated. And confusing. The more you know about your potential benefits before you make an appointment with your local Social Security Administration office, the better off you’ll be.
Chances are you receive widow survivor benefits from the Social Security Administration (SSA). If your benefits confuse you, you’re not alone.
Everyone is confused.
Lots of rules and regulations apply to the benefits either you or your children receive. And lots of myths.
I’m going to dispel some myths surrounding widow and child survivor benefits and hopefully answer some of your more pressing questions once and for all. I’ve done the research on the top 5 things you need to know about widow survivor benefits, so you don’t have to.
PSA: I’m not a Social Security Administration representative, lawyer, disability specialist or crystal-ball reviewer and I don’t play one on the Internet. Please don’t assume the accuracy of the information presented without consulting with the Social Security Administration about your specific case.
WHAT THE FAMILY MAXIMUM BENEFIT (FMB) MEAN
The SSA limits the amount of money it can pay to a family. Every Social Security survivor benefit computation includes a Family Maximum Benefit or FMB for short. The FMB amount can range from 150 to 180 percent of the full benefit amount. The benefit determination requires lots of calculations. You can’t just assume you should be receiving the high end or 180 percent of your deceased spouse’s full benefit.
The range is a range for a reason. The calculation is tricky, and you can try to make sense of it by clicking here. Or you could gauge your eyeballs out with hot sticks because it would be less painful.
A surviving widow is eligible to receive a widow benefit at any age if she’s caring for children under the age of 16. As soon as her youngest child reaches 16, she is no longer eligible for this child-in-care benefit.
Each child qualifies for a child survivor benefit until one month before his or her 18th birthday. (The only way to extend child benefits is if the child is a full-time student at an elementary or secondary-level school past age 18 or if they become disabled before age 22. Please see the following form SSA-1372-BK-FCfor more information.)
If the total amount payable to all family members exceeds the family’s FMB limit, SS reduces each person’s benefit until the total equals the maximum allowable amount. On the flip side, if you’ve reached the FMB and one or more family members stop receiving benefits, the remaining family member benefits could be recalculated and possibly increased.
Notice the words I’m using.
Now that you know what an FMB is and how it applies to your family, the next step is understanding your numbers and calculations. Both individually and together. Even if it means several trips to your local SSA office to discuss your personal claiming strategy.
If you aren’t sure what your FMB is, contact the SSA to ask specifically about the calculations relevant to your benefit(s).
TAXES ON SURVIVOR BENEFITS
Ooohh…taxes. Such a lovely discussion topic!
Taxes are no joke, so it’s important to understand the rules. The problem is the calculations to determine taxable survivor benefits are confusing. This might be the most complicated of the top 5 things you need to know about widow survivor benefits.
Before we delve into the details, know this: you do not pay taxes on your child’s survivor benefits. Your taxability is separate from your child’s taxability. In other words, their benefits don’t affect your income for tax purposes. Your child receives social security benefits in his name, under his own social security number. But minors can’t legally manage assets. So the SSA deposits the money into your account as a representative payee.
Are we good so far? Okee dokee.
So, what, if any, benefits are taxed?
Let’s break it down separately by kids and adults.
Are Child Survivor Benefits Taxed?
The amount your child receives for his social security survivor benefits every month is not considered taxable income.
However, the IRS could tax your child’s survivor benefits if he gets a part-time job and makes oodles of money. By oodles, I mean earning over $25,000 per year (the base amount of a child’s filing status) by adding:
- (1) One-half his child survivor benefits
- (2) All of his other income
If this total (1+2) is greater than the child’s filing status base amount of $25,000, part of your kid’s social security benefits may be taxable.
For a quick example, let’s say your child receives a monthly survivor benefit of $1000. He takes 1/2 of this benefit ($1,000 x 12 months = 12,000 per year/2 = $6,000) and adds it to his part-time job income. So, to make it really easy, let’s subtract $6,000 from the tax base of $25,000 for a total of $19,000.
His part-time job must clear $19,000 or more per year to trigger taxable income.
So, your kid will probably never have to pay taxes on his social security survivor benefits because he will most likely not have a job paying $19,000 per year before he turns 18.
But if he does? Give him props!
And then contact a tax advisor stat or figure the taxable benefit amount yourself on a worksheet in the Instructions for Form 1040.
Are Widow Survivor Benefits Taxed?
Now for the adults.
Are your widow survivor benefits taxed?
Like everything else, it depends.
If you don’t work and your children receive survivor benefits, the IRS won’t consider your child’s survivor benefits as your income. Good news.
Also, if you don’t work and you’re receiving widow survivor benefits because you are either 1) over age 60 or 2) caring for a dependent child under the age of 16, you probably won’t have to pay taxes because your survivor benefits were your only source of income.
However, if you work and earn an income in addition to receiving widow survivor benefits (yours, not your kids) you are subject to what the SSA calls the earnings limit test.
Under the earnings test, the SSA will reduce your monthly benefits by the amount of your excess earnings over and above the earnings limit for that year. This number can change from year to year. Please read more about the earnings limit here.
For a frame of reference, I chose not to collect widow survivor benefits for myself (as a widow caring for the deceased’s child who is under age 16) because I make more money on my own. It didn’t make sense for me to collect a widow benefit that essentially puts a cap on my other income-generating abilities.
You can find the best information about the earnings test in the SSA publication How Work Affects Your Benefits. Even though the language refers to “retirement” benefits, it applies to survivor benefits also.
Because you’re receiving survivor benefits and working too, your tax implications are different than if you just receive benefits without working.
I recommend speaking directly with an SSA representative or a CPA to determine how your income affects your taxes.
Lordy, this gets complicated.
If you’re not sure about any of this, you can complete the IRS Notice 703 worksheet to see if your benefits are taxable.
HOW DOES REMARRIAGE (OR ADOPTION) AFFECT BENEFITS?
If you get remarried before turning age 60 you forfeit your widow survivor benefits.
Let’s take a closer look at what this means.
Survivor Benefits and Remarriage
When you remarry, you can’t claim widow survivor benefits even if you’re caring for young kids under the age of 16 (which entitled you to the benefits in the first place).
So, should you wait to get married again if it means giving up survivor benefits?
Ugh. The numbers.
This involves lots of math. Which I loathe. And lots of patience. Which I don’t have. So, for me, I wouldn’t put too much stock into my potential widow benefits if I met a great guy and we decided to get hitched.
Isn’t love greater than money anyway?
But what about your kids’ benefits?
Remarriage doesn’t affect your kids’ benefits. Their child survivor benefits continue with no payment interruption.
Survivor Benefits and Adoption
If you remarry and your new spouse wants to adopt your kid(s), the adoption won’t cause your kids’ current benefits to end either.
According to the SSA publication What You Need to Know When You Get Retirement or Survivor Benefits, “If your new spouse adopts your children who are entitled to or already receiving benefits, the adoption does not end the child’s benefits.”
Myth busted. It’s right there in black and white on Page 9.
Here’s the thing though…make sure you let the SSA know about the adoption. The SSA wants to know the following:
- Child’s new name
- Date of the adoption decree
- Adopting parent’s name and address
I wouldn’t mess around with non-compliance. Go on and update your records. Pronto.
WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR BENEFITS IF YOU MOVE TO ANOTHER STATE?
Your benefits payments are federally funded, so moving to a new state won’t affect your payment amount.
However, it’s imperative that you provide your new information to the SSA as soon as possible to avoid any delay in payments. You need to let the SSA administration know the following:
- Your new direct deposit account information (if you changed banks during the move)
- Your new address and phone number
- Names of any family members getting benefits who move with you
You can call 1-800-772-1213 and update this information or change your address on your my Social Security account page.
Personally, I would get to the local SSA office to update this information face-to-face. And I would ask for a paper copy of the updated information. Or some kind of confirmation number. I would like to see the change of address confirmation with my own eyeballs.
Remember that the SSA gets in touch with you by mail. So even if you receive your benefits by direct deposit, they need your new/correct address to send letters and other correspondence to you.
They will flat-out stop your benefits if they can’t contact you.
SHOULD YOUTAKE AN EARLY WIDOW OR EARLY RETIREMENT BENEFIT FIRST?
If you worked in a job that paid into the Social Security system you can collect retirement benefits as early as age 62. But, if you’re a widow you also have the option to collect a widow survivor benefit starting at age 60 (provided you didn’t get remarried before age 60 or you forfeit survivor benefits).
You can’t collect both a widow survivor benefit and a retirement benefit. You can only collect one benefit at a time. But that doesn’t mean you can’t start collecting one benefit and switch to another as your benefit increases.
The following information assumes your spouse died before his full retirement age and was not collecting retirement benefits. You can collect the amount your spouse would have received at his full retirement age. However, you collect reduced amounts if you start collecting before your own full retirement age.
Good grief. I have a headache.
Let me try to explain this below.
Watch out for the gotcha …
Numbers You Need to Know
Before you try to make sense of all the numbers and calculations, you need to know three numbers:
- Your Full Retirement Age (FRA). For anyone born after 1960, your FRA is 67.
- Your deceased husband’s full retirement benefit (aka your widow survivor benefit). This is what he would have received if he began collecting SS at his FRA.
- Your full retirement benefit at your FRA.
Let’s use an example of a fictitious widow named Dedee. Here are Dedee’s numbers:
- $2,300 (widow survivor benefit)
- $2,000 (full retirement benefit)
Claim Widow Survivor Benefit First
Dedee’s widow survivor benefit is higher to begin with, but if she starts collecting her widow benefit early (age 60) she’ll receive a reduced benefit because she’s receiving benefits for longer than if she started collecting at her full retirement age.
If Dedee’s widow benefit is $2,300 per month at her full retirement age, but she started collecting early at age 60, she would only receive $1,644 per month. Survivor benefits starting at age 60 are always reduced by 28.5%. However, the benefit amount increases each year you wait to claim your benefits until you reach your full retirement age.
See the table on the Benefits Planner: Survivors | Receiving Survivor Benefits Early for more examples of benefit amounts based on birth year.
Dedee could claim a (reduced) widow survivor benefit now and let her own retirement benefit continue to grow. That means, at age 70, she could switch from a survivor benefit to her own retirement benefit if it’s higher.
Claim Retirement Benefit First
Now, it looks as if Dedee’s widow benefit is higher than her full retirement benefit at age 67. She could take her own reduced retirement benefit early, at age 62, and switch to the widow benefit when she reaches FRA and the widow benefit is at its highest. Widow survivor benefits don’t increase at all past your FRA.
So, Dedee could wait until age 62 and take a reduced retirement benefit of $1,500 until she reaches age 67 when she could switch to a survivor benefit of the full $2,300.
Stop the Presses (AKA the Gotcha)
But, let’s look at the table below.
At first glance, we notice that the widow benefit ($2,300) is higher than the retirement benefit ($2,000) at age 67 (when the widow benefit stops increasing incrementally). This would cause most of us to assume Dedee should claim her retirement benefit first (at age 62) and claim her widow benefit at our FRA because the amount of the widow survivor benefit is higher.
STOP THE FREAKING PRESSES.
Upon closer observation, we see that Dedee’s own retirement benefit continues to grow until she reaches age 70. For every year you delay collecting retirement benefits, your base benefit increases until it maxes out at age 70. Those incremental increases in Dedee’s own retirement benefit exceed her survivor benefit amount at age 70.
So, realistically, Dedee’s own retirement benefit is larger than her widow survivor benefit if she waits long enough to collect. And she can wait to collect her own retirement benefit because if she’s a smart cookie, she’ll take her reduced widow benefit early and switch to her own retirement benefit at age 70.
WIDOW WRAP UP
Whew. That took a lot out of me. I’m feeling very lightheaded.
It took me days to write this post. DAYS.
If we’ve learned one thing from this here plethora of information, it’s this: Social Security is COMPLI-FREAKIN-CATED.
Make an appointment at your local SS office and review these numbers with an SSA representative. Learn about your specific numbers and how to go about collecting for your best benefit.
The problem is, not every SSA representative understands taxes or claiming strategies. So, the more you know before you go the better off you’ll be.
I hope I answered some of your pressing Social Security questions. If not, please comment below or send me an email at kim (at) widow411 (dot) com and let me know what you’re struggling with.
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What if I am on disability and have been since 1996. I am also 12 years younger than my deceased husband. I am 58 and will be 59 in June. My husband passed away in November 2020. I immediately called SS to apply for my widows benefits. After getting a call from my personal worker in mid December he said that it would take up to 90 days. Then after the first of the year 2021, he said that I would have to see a SS doctor. One was a mental health doctor which was by telemed in February. The other would be an in person appointment which was finally scheduled for April 5th. My social security worker said that they would have 30 days to reply with their findings. The doctor was really quick, didn’t talk except to tell me what to do and he said ok and started to walk into another room. I quickly asked him how long would it take. He replied we get these out pretty quick. My SS worker is pretty kind and informative. He said that once he received it he would go over it and send it to the next department and they would decide on amount within 3 days. I am still waiting to hear something. But I have been trying to live off of my disability benefits of $506.00 a month and stressing over this and if I will have enough to live on is making my health worse. My husband received around $2400.00 a month. Should I be expecting all, half, or another percentage of his check. My worker said I would get something additional to my current $506. but wasn’t sure how much. Do you have any information on this kind of situation and what happens if the doctor doesn’t get his report into them in 30 days. I would appreciate any information you may have.
Hi Kathy, I’m sure it’s frustrating to have to wait this out. SS survivor benefits and disability have an added layer of complications due to lots of rules and regulations. Even if you’re eligible to receive survivor benefits early, it would only be a percentage of his record. Unfortunately, I don’t have any additional info for you other than to suggest you keep calling and follow up every few days to make sure all the parties involved are doing what they say they’ll do. I’m wishing you lots of good luck.
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